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The
Mexico Cap and Rays 8 Reales was the workhorse of Oriental
trade succeeding the pillar and portrait
8 Reales in the mid-19th
century. Often, these pieces acquired "chop" marks (sometimes many) which are considered stamps of approval by the merchants who accepted these pieces in trade. The series, is unique in its breadth of dates, mints, assayers and varieties. At this writing, I'm in the process of liquidating a 650 + piece family collection that my father started 25 years earlier. I retained a sampling of the variations. This is not a comprehensive, or even a representative collection, but illustrates some of the variety of this series. Varieties.Striking.Legends.Anti-counterfeiting.Counterfeits. |
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| Counterfeit 8 reales. The broad variety of counterfeits in this series runs the gamut in terms of design, composition and place of origin including: - Base metal and debased silver coins struck for a profit in Mexico or elsewhere; - “Full” composition struck in the United States for Oriental trade; - Dies fabricated from “official” elements, such as the eagle; - Dies which “escaped” from the mint with a complete date; - Dies which “escaped” from the mint the three digits, the fourth being added by the counterfeiter; - Coins made in Mexico; - Coins made in the United States. This piece dated 1834 Zs MO was in my collection for years, presumed genuine. I now have it on good authority that this piece was identified by John Leonard Riddell (Riddell # 237) in his 1845 work “A Monograph of the Silver Dollar,: Good and Bad. Illustrated with Facsimile Figures”. 1834 Do RM Riddell # 371. ![]() 1832 Do RM Riddell # 365. ![]() |
1834 Zs OM 8 reales (Riddell
# 237) I think this one looks better than "the real thing" (see below) ![]() 1844 Go PM 1831 Zs OM Riddel # 223 C - Comtemporary countrfeit made in the USA ![]() |
1832 Ds RL - Riddell 415 This base metal couunterfeit is one of the more obvious fakes . (Formerly in my collection - now in a study collection.) ![]() A more convincing example of the above ![]() 1829 Zs OV- - Riddell 221 Contemporary counterfeit made in the USA (Formerly in my collection - - now in a study collection.) |
Anti-counterfeiting Beginning in 1867, the Mexico City mint added two "dragon teeth" below the cap to make it more difficult to accurately copy the die. In 1868, Mexico City mint began producing dies for other for the Chihuahua In 1887 the standardization of the dies was extended to the remaining active mints: 1868: Ca; 1881 Ho, Oa; 1887: Cn, Do, Ga, Go, Pi, Zs. The "dragon teeth" appeared in the remaining mints with the "standardized" dies. |
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According to Dunigan & Parker (1), a pair
of official dies
escaped from the Durango mint in the late 1840s, and was being used to
produce base metal counterfeit 8 reales. Their response was to identify
the replacement dies by inserting the initials (B, G & Y) at various places in the rays, and occasionally on
the eagle. This 1848 Do CM piece illustrates a "B" and "G" in the rays. (1) Dunigan and Parker: Resplandores, Publisher: Superior Stamp and Coin, 1997 |
| Variations
in Legends
I illustrate here several punctuation styles from the early Guanjuato mint of 1830 (period), 1830-43 (3 periods) and 1831 (2 stars and 1 period) and Chihuahua 1844 (3 large periods). |
Other variations |
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A die clash
occurs when the dies come together without a
planchet
between. If done with sufffucient force, the obverse die leaves
a
raised impression on the reverse and vice-versa. The clash, is typically not seen on the cap side due to the density of the design. The "sunburst" clash has occurred on a number of occasions in this series including 1840 Do RM, 1837 Go PJ, 1868 Do CP, and 1835 Do RM. ==> I suspect that the 'European die' of the Do mint may have been subject to high striking pressure to make this ''error" much more frequent on these pieces than on other dates and mints. |
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As,
Ca;
Cn,
Ce.
Do, Ga.
GC. Go.
Ho,
Mo,
Oa,
Pi,
Zs. Until the standardization of the dies in the late 19th century, illustrated on the background image, basic design features such as the Cap and Rays, and eagle were highly individualized from mint to mint and year to year within each of the 14 mints. One could collect dozens of varieties.
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Alamos Mint A , As
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1868-1875 1871
A DL![]() |
1876 1876 As DL![]() |
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1877-1882 1879 As
DL - ex Amon Carter![]() |
1883-1886 1885 As ML![]() |
1887-1895 - See standardization
of the dies 1891 As ML |
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| Catorce
Mint CE 1863 According to D & P, the die style for Catorce was similar to neighboring San.Luis Potosi. |
1863 Ce ML
(Formerly in my collection) |
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Chihuahua Ca
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The early years of the CA mint feature a broad eagle, strikingly
different from the narrow design eventually adopted. 1831 - 1832 |
1834-1838 1835
Ca MR - (Formerly in my collection) |
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1834-1838
1836 Ca MR - Crude distinct hand cut die - ![]() |
1840-1868 1844 Ca RG![]() |
1868-1895
1870 Ca MM See standardization of the dies |
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Culican Cn,
C
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1846-1853 1851 C CE Formerly in my collection |
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| 1854-1857 1857 C CE Formerly in my collection |
1858-1870 1863 C CE ![]() |
1873-1874 1873 C MP Formerly in my collection |
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1874-1877
1876 Cn CG![]() |
1878-1881
1878 Cn JD![]() |
1881-1884 1882
Cn AM![]() |
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1885 C/Cn 1885 Cn AM ![]() |
18861886 Cn AM ![]() |
1887-1895 - See standardization of the dies 1891 Cn AM |
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| 8 Durango Do
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1825-1827 1825 Do RL
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1827-1829 1828 Do
RL Formerly in my collection |
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1830-1832 1831
Do RM![]() |
1832-1842
"French" die - one of the most distinctive designs of the 8R
series.![]() |
1842-1849 1848 Do CM (with B& G in rays)![]() |
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| 1849-1850 1849 Do JMR Formerly in my collection |
1850-1855 1852 Do JMR Formerly in my collection ![]() |
1855-1856 1856 Do CP Formerly in my collection |
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| 1857-1864 1858 Do CP |
1865-1870 1870 Do CP |
1873-1882 1875 Do CM |
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1882-1886 1882 Do JP ![]() |
1887-1895 See standardization of the dies |
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Estado
de Mexico EoMo
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1829
Eo Mo -(Formerly in my
collection)![]() |
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Guadalaraja,
Ga
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1825-1845 1839 Ga JG![]() |
1845-1870 1859 Ga JG![]() |
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1873-1874 1873
Ga IC![]() |
1874-1886
1878 Ga JA![]() |
1887-1895 1891 Ga JS See standardization of the dies |
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Guadalupe Y Calvo GC
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1844-1852 1850 GC
MP (Formerly in my collection)![]() |
1845-1846 1845 GC
MP (Formerly in my collection)![]() |
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Guanajuato Go
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1828-1829 1829
Go MJ |
1829-1830 1830 Go MJ![]() |
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| 1830-1843
1842 Go PJ (3 dots following date) |
1831 Go MJ
2 Stars/ Dot Scarce variiety one year only |
1843 -1848 1843 Go PM | ||
| 1848-1853 1849 Go PF |
1854-1870 1862 Go YE |
1873-1886 1881 Go SB |
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| 1887-1897 1896 Go RS
/ 1891 as ML See standardization of the dies ![]() |
1887-1897 1896 Go RS
/ 1891 as ML See standardization of the dies ![]() ![]() |
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Hermosillo
Ho
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1862-1863 1863
Ho FM - formerly in my collection![]() |
1863 - 1866 1865
Ho FM - formerly in my collection![]() |
1876-1875 1874 Ho PR ![]() |
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1876-1880 1880
Ho JA![]() |
1881-1882 1881 Ho JA![]() |
1881-1895 1892 Ho FG See standardization of the dies |
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Mexico
City Mo
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1824-1847 1824
Mo JM ** |
1824-1826 1825
Mo JM - not recognized by D&P as a separate type -
but the eagle looks quite distinct to me. |
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1845 Mo MH![]() |
1848 - 1863 1863 Mo
CH ![]() |
See standardization of the dies 1867-1897 1867 MoCH ![]() |
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Oaxaca O,
Oa, OA
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1859 Oa AE formerly in my
collection |
1860 Oa AE ![]() |
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| 1861-
1862 1861 Oa AE formerly in my collection |
1863 O AE formerly in my
collection |
1861- 1864 1863
O FR
formerly in my collection |
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1867-1869
1869 O AE![]() |
1874-1876 | 1877-1881 | ||
1881-1893 See standardization of the dies ![]() |
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San.Luis
Potosi. Pi
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1827-1839 1836 Pi
JS 1838 PI JS![]() |
1840-1842 1840 Pi JS - Worn die appears as "1810" |
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1842-1856
1846 Pi AM![]() |
1857-1863 1861 Pi RO![]() |
1863-1864
1863 Pi RO![]() |
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1867-1870
1869
Pi PS![]() |
1873-1887 1880 PiMR Ex Amon Carter![]() |
1887-1893 1890 Pi
MR See standardization of the dies![]() |
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Zacatecas
Z, Zs
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1825-1842 1834
Zs OM![]() |
1842-1845 1844 Zs OM![]() |
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1845-1882 1860/59 Zs
MO![]() |
1882-1886 1883
Zs JS |
1887-1897 See standardization of the dies |
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